Gun fanatics plan rally on Sandy Hook anniversary

Just when you thought gun fanatics couldn’t get any crazier (from Newtown Patch):

Newtown’s First Selectman has responded to reports that gun rights organizations are planning to use Dec. 14, 2013 as a day of support for guns.

Three gun rights organizations — the Second Amendment Foundation, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and DefendGunRights.com — announced Thursday they would sponsor the day on the anniversary of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

First Selectman Pat Llodra says she respects their opinions, but asks the organizations not to use Newtown to host rallies.

“For this group to use our Sandy Hook tragedy as a springboard for political action is disrespectful to our community of Newtown and is of particularly insensitive timing,” said Llodra in a statement released Friday.

The Daily News in New York has the right response:

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A gun at the supermarket

A gun nut walked into a Kroger supermarket in Charlottesville, Va., recently, holding a loaded AR-15.

People were terrified.

He wasn’t arrested, because he didn’t break any law (from WVIR-TV):

Charlottesville police say the man who showed up at a Kroger grocery store with a loaded gun wanted to make a point.  On Sunday, an unidentified 22-year-old man carried a loaded AR-15 into the Kroger store on Emmet Street and Hydraulic Road, sparking not only a scare for customers and employees but also a 2nd Amendment debate.

Charlottesville police drew their guns on the man after witnesses reported he brought a gun into the store. They restrained the man to ask him questions, but released him after they confirmed he is not a convicted felon, owned the gun legally and it was not concealed.

Police say he was cooperative and did nothing illegal. Officers did find a note in his pocket spelling out his intent to express his 2nd Amendment rights. Police say they could not release man’s name because he was not arrested.

Let’s try to ignore the fact, as hard as it is, that the guy belongs in jail or in a mental institution. Given the shootings in Newtown and Aurora, people are going to be terrified when someone walks into a public place brandishing a semiautomatic rifle. And let’s ignore the fact that if the police aren’t going to arrest him, this is, at the least, a case of:

1) Disturbing the peace
2) Reckless endangerment
3) Creating a public nuisance

Let’s focus on what would happen in NRA heaven.

A guy walks into a supermarket carrying a loaded AR-15. Second amendment lovers, all packing heat, sense danger, pull out their guns and start blazing away.

Multiple deaths ensue. And then the NRA says now is not the time to talk about gun regulation, because that’s using a tragedy for political gain.

Oh, and think about the note in the pocket.

Why did he have “a note in his pocket spelling out his intent to express his 2nd Amendment rights.”

I suspect it’s because he anticipated the possibility that this little fun gun run was going to end up in a shootout with him dead.

A look at gun possession … and of gun use

The Journal News in suburban New York published a story a few days ago that involved going through public records and finding the names of every registered gun used in Westchester and Rockland counties. Then it took every name and address and put them on a map. So neighbors now know who has a gun next door to them.

That bothers me. It just feels like an invasion of privacy, and I’m not going to link to it (though it didn’t take more than a quick Google search to find it).

The permit holders obeyed the law by seeking a permit before they got a firearm. I’ve got tons of problems with the use of guns, but I don’t see any reason to publicize every person with a gun in the two counties, especially when they haven’t committed a crime.

That said, there are a hell of a lot of guns in Westchester and Rockland counties, and if that’s the case in suburban New York, the numbers have to be astronomical throughout the rest of the country.

Meanwhile, the Violence Policy Center, a pro-gun-control organization, went through state databases and listed, “the circumstances for all killings (private citizen, law enforcement, mass shootings, murder-suicide) not ruled self-defense by private individuals legally allowed to carry concealed handguns.”

This, I have no trouble linking to. Go here for the 216-page PDF.

It’s scary. Lots of murders. Lots of suicides (an alarming number of murder/suicides). Lots of kids finding their parents guns and blowing themselves away.

The listings all show how police and courts dealt with the incidents, and there are contrasts throughout the country, especially in terms of parental responsibility on children’s deaths. Some states prosecute. Others don’t. And each incident is a detailed account of what led up to the deaths.

Meanwhile, Ezra Kline posts a chart over at the Washington Post that shows the leading causes of violence-related deaths in the U.S. by method and age group (click to enlarge):

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As Ezra says:

You know that line, “guns don’t kill people, people kill people?” It’s true, so far as it goes. But in the United States, when people decide to kill people, or kill themselves, they typically reach for a gun.

Demand a plan

If you don’t, it’s going to happen again.

 

Gun contortionists

Things can only get worse:

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America:

Gun control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands. Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered. This tragedy underscores the urgency of getting rid of gun bans in school zones. The only thing accomplished by gun free zones is to insure that mass murderers can slay more before they are finally confronted by someone with a gun.”

The reactionary Michigan legislature:

NO LONGER ‘NO CARRY’

If reforms are signed by the governor, concealed handguns can be carried in these places, though exclusions are still possible in privately-owned facilities and public colleges and universities.
Schools and school property
Child-care centers
Bars
Churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, or other places of worship
Entertainment facilities that seat 2,500 people or more
Hospitals
Dormitories and classrooms of a community college, college, or university

Colorado Gov. David Hickenlooper, a Democrat:

“But certainly the culture of violence — and look at the level of violence in our media, video games. … The depiction of assault weapons again and again. There might well be some direct connection between people who have mental instability and when they go over the edge, they transpose themselves, they become part of one of those videos games. And perhaps that’s why all these assault weapons are used. …

“Our country is based on — that Second Amendment has been shown repeatedly, it does protect people’s rights bear arms, to have guns. You know, my grandfather taught me how to shoot and clean a 12-gauge shotgun and showed me how to hunt and I’ve shown my son. I mean, that tradition is very powerful throughout this country.

“But, you know, discussion around assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and what type of — should there be wait? You know, one of the things we’re doing in Colorado is looking at expanding the time if someone’s had a mental-illness hold, expanding the time they have to wait before they can get access to a firearm. Those kinds of things, I think those discussions are going to happen, I mean, in real time over the next couple of months.”

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Weasel):

“The violence in the entertainment culture – particularly, with the extraordinary realism to video games, movies now, et cetera – does cause vulnerable young men to be more violent. Doesn’t make everybody more violent, but it’s a causative factor in some cases.”

“We ought to ask the entertainment community, what are you going to do to tone that down.”

Rep. Louis Gomert (R-Loony Bin)

You know, having been and judge and having reviewed photographs of these horrific scenes and knowing that children have these defensive wounds — gunshots through their arms and hands as they try to protect themselves — and hearing the heroic stories the principal, lunging trying to protect — Chris, I wish to God she had had an M4 in her office locked up. So, when she heard gunfire she pulls it out and she didn’t have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands, but she takes him out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids.

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Guns don’t kill people, they just go off accidentally

From the Rude Pundit:

Zombie Darwin must be chortling his bearded bony ass at this 18-year old in Port St. Lucie, Florida, just across the state from Tampa, who was “cleaning his .357 Magnum revolver when he ‘somehow accidentally shot himself in the groin and leg area.'” Yep, the gun just went off ….

Need more to feel vastly superior to gun nuts? How about the Indiana man who modified his Ruger and shot off his fingertip? The South Carolina man who shot his hand with a .40 Smith and Wesson at a gun show? The North Carolina man who shot himself while showing off a pistol at a gun show? The rural Washington man who had MacGyvered a mole trap using a 12-gauge shotgun and shot out his knee (to the everlasting delight of the moles who had an orgy in his blood while he rolled around screaming)? The Nevada man who shot himself in the ass in a movie theatre (he was deemed responsible enough to have a conceal carry permit)? The New Hampshire man who shot himself in the ass while watching TV? The Nebraska man who shot himself in the foot (holy true-life aphorisms) while unloading his Glock? The Oklahoma man who accidentally shot himself in the chest?

That’s just in the last couple of weeks. And this list is by no means exhaustive.

What the Rude Pundit would like to know is how many of the men up there used that excuse, “The gun just went off”? And he wonders how many of those who said that have also used the worthless canard that “guns don’t kill people…”